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Reni Admin
Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-01-28 Age : 49 Location : Missouri
| Subject: Complaints Thu 19 Mar 2009, 1:44 am | |
| Ok I made this section because better to get out whats bothering you than let it go. I am really irritated about a few things. 1. FB's when your doing a guildmates FB make sure you do it all. Seriously no reason to no make sure they have all quests and get it all done. Higher lvls are the ones that help so they know the things that are needed. If you dont do it then you need to make sure you go back and help that guildie finish ALL QUESTS. 2. Higher lvls need to help with more than just FB's. Why is it I rarely see anyone offering to help with BOSSES but when comes to FB's everyone is there. if you can do the FB's you can do the Bosses as well 3. Clerics when asked to join party for a FB', Boss or TT run you are there to HEAL. dont complain about use of a mp charm yes you spent money on it but the tank spends money on their hp charm that is ticking every 5 minutes cus you dont heal. not to mention the fact tank has repair costs after the fact. 4. Veno's you make money easy you dont use charms and pretty much able to solo everything... You can offer to help lower lvls once in awhile with quests even bosses. especially if you have a herc. 5. If you have a quest log full of Bosses dont be afraid to ask for help. but you dont need to ask every 10 minutes if others say they are busy. Also the second you get the Boss doesnt mean it needs to be done RIGHT AWAY. Some have had to wait 10+ lvls to do them. (ALL the high lvls) 6. TT Weapons.... just because you are getting close to needing the TT weapon doesnt mean you have to get it right when you turn that lvl. I myself waited a long time for my weapon. 7. TT runs for guild members are to help get mats for guild members NOT Money runs. your asked to go to HELP not to be paid for coming. 8. I help with bosses all the time. I get invited to FB's rarely so yes I am a little peeved that I help on things I get nothing out of and the things I can actually gain something no one bothers to ask me to help with. It gets irritating. Yes I know everyone likes doing FB's good exp and rep. OK a few things that have irritated me and well dont like it fine. have something to say about it then say it. I am not going to get mad at anyone for speaking their mind (well unless you plan on telling me to go to hell or worse) I love this guild and the people in it. I would and will do anything to help any of you out. MystiBabe Guild Leader8x Archer | |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Thu 19 Mar 2009, 11:19 am | |
| Some of us always play in a group so we help each other all the time. If others need help, they don't need to wait for someone else to offer his help... they can ask.
The only reason why I complain about my mp charms is because I paid for them with CASH unlike most who can afford to buy them with game money. If mine were bought with in-game money, you wouldn't hear a single word from me.
Bottom line. If you need my help or Roxy's just ask us or pm us and we will help as much as we can. |
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| | | | Reni Admin
Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-01-28 Age : 49 Location : Missouri
| Subject: Re: Complaints Thu 19 Mar 2009, 10:19 pm | |
| I am not mad about anyone stating their opinion or anything.... We are a guild and well if have a problem state it so we can work it out. No reason to get mad this is a game and we are all here to have fun. at least I hope thats why we are all here. Most of us spend real cash to get charms... I have spent way too much real money on this game. Most of my charms are bought from boutique which I used REAL CASH to purchase. I upgraded the Guild by selling boutique gold bought with REAL CASH
As for TT runs giving mats to someone who used part of a charm is unfair to the rest of the party. usually 2 clerics both should have charms and tank who has repair costs of 150k or more. | |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Fri 20 Mar 2009, 7:44 am | |
| I guess i just feel whatever EXTRA money is made should be split between the people who are using money to help. If its a run for vuk he can use his own money to cover costs for himself, But if ebu and roar are helping him all extra items should be sold to cover tank repair costs and ebu charm. just my opinion.. |
| | | Marlah
Posts : 37 Join date : 2009-01-30 Location : somewhere in my mind
| Subject: Re: Complaints Mon 23 Mar 2009, 3:10 pm | |
| Yeah.. Vuk, you're not the only one that uses real cash in this game. I'm a veno and I don't use game money to buy charms. Course, I also don't use charms as fast as you do. and you just started using charms. Knight and ebu have been using charms longer and most likely use real cash to get them. I'm sure they are as frustrated as you when their charm clicks.
As far as money splitting goes for TT runs, it would be hard to keep track of it, especially if you TT with different people all the time. Best bet would be to split everything after each run money wise. and donate materials to the faction. Or, I'm not really sure.
I know when I run TT, I do it rarely now, but when I do run it, I like to run it at least 2-5 times, depending on how many people are in the group. And I split the materials between the group and donate my mats to the faction.
I even bought Roar a new charm when my herc couldn't tank a boss in TT. i felt like since i organized everything, i shouldnt let those who come TT with me pay the price. but then is that fair to me? probably not. and i would do it again in a heart beat.
point is... it shouldnt matter what you are doing or whom you are helping who or is helping you. we're doing this as a group. we're doing this as a faction.
I try to help out when I can. course real life loves to get in the way. and quite frankly... not a whole lot of people ask for my help anyways. i usually answer the call for fbs or bosses, if i think i can tank it with my herc. and when i am online and havent been kidnapped.. though that happens very rarely.. trust me.
and when i offer for fbs.. its full. so i go on my merry way. yes FBs are nice. yes EXS and REP is nice and everyone wants it. but like mysti said... people need bosses too.
and i help when i can. i know i may not be online when a few people need help. but dont be afraid to ask. i may be a veno. but i love a challenge. and i hate to solo.. which is funny cause i play a solo class....
rant off. | |
| | | Reni Admin
Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-01-28 Age : 49 Location : Missouri
| Subject: Re: Complaints Mon 23 Mar 2009, 6:21 pm | |
| All my rants and complaints boil down to people deciding that they are in this for themselves only. I have gotten so frustrated lately about things and maybe I am wrong but seems no one wants to really help anyone around anymore. I made sure that those over lvl 60 got their TT weapon at my expense... yes some went along and helped but the majority was PEET, Knight, Ebu and myself. I am more than wiling to help with higher weapons as well as long as it is all within reason. Don't pester and beg for things before you even need them an do not plan on helping get them. Weapons was my main concern Armor no I do not see the point in making it the lvl 90 TT does not require the 70's and 80's stuff unless go gold. I know from experience how hard it is and how much money the gold armor costs. Just as a side note most guilds I have spoken to do not help with TT unless they are paid to do so most have to farm stuff themselves or buy the mats or weapons. I feel like all the work I have done for this guild is not appreciated and I know several others feel the same way. I waited for my lvl 70 weapon til I needed my lvl 80 and then didnt get the lvl 80 til I was almost lvl 84..... so please be a little more respectful to others in guild and appreciative of those who do help.
Guild Funds are low TT mats the low ones have been used and those not been used been put in auction over and over and over again.. when stuff sells it is put in bank on alt to save for TW. I do not ask for others to donate money to guild for TW I never planned on it I was using TT mats to slowly build up funds. Market prices on mats we have is basically zero. what used to cost 350k is now under 100k and actually only mats I can sell are those that no one uses. and those do not sell at all I spent more money putting in auction that I would even get out of them.
I myself have loaned money, killed bosses or mobs, or given mats to almost every guild member. So when I hear comments about that I take money for myself or sell TT mats for money for myself it pisses me off. If you do not want to be in the guild no one is keeping anyone here. so my new policy You Don't like it you can leave
I love this guild and the people in it and will do what I can to help with quests bosses and anything I can possibly help with. All within reason of course. I may be guild leader but I also play the game for fun not to babysit and do for others all the time. | |
| | | Reni Admin
Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-01-28 Age : 49 Location : Missouri
| Subject: Re: Complaints Wed 25 Mar 2009, 11:08 am | |
| My ranting is not directed to ONE person if someone thinks it is I am sorry. I Love this faction and well created this section for EVERYONE to get out what bothers them. Yes at times I get frustrated and want to scream because I tend to hold everything that bothers me in til it gets bad. So for a change I am saying it here.
We have had several members leave faction because they think clerics don't want to help the lower lvls with anything. I do not want the tension in the guild. People have their bad days/weeks. If you have a complaint about anyone even if it is me say it here. Yes I booted someone from faction for stating a problem they had with me in faction chat. that person spent a short time in the guild they deserved to be booted before they said anything to me in my opinion. Come into a guild and bitch about it being a lvl 3 and not having max members. I would rather have a small guild of friends than a large guild that no one knows each other.
Anyways say what you want here in this section just want it kept out of faction chat. If its a complaint about something we can fix then we should try and fix it. | |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Wed 25 Mar 2009, 3:43 pm | |
| I think that new recruits should have a time trial before given info for vent and forum, this way we will have less drama and unpleasant conversations.
As for helping others, myself and Roxy usually help or try to help with what we can. but we always end up helping the same people because no one else asks for help...... there are only few guild members who are active on guild chat, and when they do need help they ask. It happened more than once when I met someone from DireFate and asked myself "who is that guy?" they never talk and end up leaving..... I think that before inviting someone "we" (person who invites) should have a small talk with the guy and get to know him/her a little and then invite. I tried inviting some people, but they refused because we also recruit low levels.... and we are not short on them. and probably many of them are also inactive by now.
And final thing.... TT. I believe that if the guild helps someone to get TT mats for some gear that the person wants to make, he/she should be able to keep it and not give it for safekeeping only to be given back again when all mats are collected. as for the other mats that are found during same run, these should be either donated to guild storage or sold for profit and split between the team members who helped to cover repair and charm bills. |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Wed 25 Mar 2009, 6:05 pm | |
| My "complaint/rant" is not about people not helping. I've had great help from most of the people in this fraction in one way or the other, and I definitely appreciate it.
Cliques My biggest concern is the groups/cliques people have developed in this fraction. It creates an atmosphere where people feel excluded. Correct me if I’m wrong, but as a fraction/guild we are all on the same team, we’re all supposed to work together, and sort of share a common goal. I’m not sure if anyone else has noticed this, but a lot of the time I’m on I just sit back and watch the fraction chat and vent channel and it seem this fraction (not excluding me) has a hard time letting someone new in. Which brings me to my next topic...
Vent Transfer (the guy who was kicked last night) did have a point. Vent needs to be more active, and I do understand where Mysti is coming from; I get migraines too that’s why a lot of the time I’m either afk or not signed on. Room’s such as “The Officer’s Room” and the “Corner”, should not even exist with the amount of people that are in this fraction. There is an average of 15-20 online and about 5 of those people are on vent. So what is the point of those rooms? Looking at it I would think it’s just to make people feel more excluded. (As a side note: I understand that Mysti and PEET like to spend time together, and I’m not saying that they should be in the lobby at all times. Leader and Director should have the ability to talk in “private”)
I’ve owned and have been an admin on vent channels for several games and for many many guilds, in all shapes and sizes. To create a fraction, as the one I’ve heard some of you speak of, involves a lot of work and a lot of PR. I’m definitely not wanting to be an admin again, so don’t get me wrong. I’ve got no time nor patience, and I’m the first to say it, but you all spend a whole lot of time on this game and in this fraction, and unfortunately it’s not growing. Yes it’s a level 3 fraction, but with not enough members to back it up.
Anyways... I figured I’d say something and do a little bit of a rant. If you all want to kick me for saying this stuff so be it, but like in any other situation, real life or in game, people don’t like to be excluded , ignored, or talked down to. |
| | | Marlah
Posts : 37 Join date : 2009-01-30 Location : somewhere in my mind
| Subject: Re: Complaints Thu 26 Mar 2009, 1:13 am | |
| Ok... I'm in a little pissy mood, so forgive me if I RANT! lol
Vent: Mysti, PEET.... WE LOVE YOU... get in the lobby more!! pretty please? lol
On a side note, I don't log on much on vent anymore either. Why? Because I too get migraines. Plus there is either no one to talk to on vent or everyone is quiet. I agree vent needs to be a little bit more active, though at the same time... please don't bring your real life drama into the channel. If it relates to the game... or if you really had a bad day, that's fine. But please don't go on and on and on about the same thing you've said 50 times over all ready. not pointing fingers, but it has happened.
Cliques: its not just you.. yes there are these in the faction. Though most of the time i am ALONE.. so i guess i am my own clique?? but i see this too, even though it doesnt really bother me. it's probably because i ignore it. like i have in high school. lol. i know - that doesnt help. mew.
more rants: for the thousanth time people. STOP worry about YOUR TT stuff at level 60-69!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AUGH! gear is nice, yes. but if you cant wear it... who bloody cares? plus you have to realize... it takes a HIGH LEVEL TANK AND A CLERIC to run most of those TT bosses. and they probably HAD TO WAIT 5 or more levels before they can actually aquire their TT gear.
I agree, the faction does need to do a few more TT runs, though lately I have seen plenty going on. so hop on board but dont whine when you cant get your latest gear you cant even wear yet. in fact, you shouldnt whine you cant get gear you can wear. There's a logn list of people who need stuff from TT... i know some of us are working pretty hard to help everybody out. but we do have a line of peopel who have been waiting for their TT gear or weapons. so be patient. hop on TT runs. sooner or later, hopefulyl sooner.. you'll get your TT gear.
and NO i cant SOLO TT SQUAD bosses with my herc!!! you over estimate a veno TOO much!
-sigh- ok i feel better now. good night. lol
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| | | PEET
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-01-30 Age : 41 Location : Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: Complaints Fri 27 Mar 2009, 1:52 pm | |
| Time for my 2 cents?
Ok, so yeah mysti and i spend most of our time in our room.. why? cause we're the same lvl and funny thing is we're always questing together. i dunno about you but i actually find it quite annoying when there are 3 or 4 conversations happening at once talking over each other... we play together usually just the two of us (or ebu and/or knight but when we're squaded with them we're in a channel with them too) so therfore we are in the same room away from the others.. funny how that is..
going on and on and on and on about something comletely irrelivant and unrelated to the game? yeah.. i'm with ya on that one Marlah...
Cliques:.. yeah they happen.. because you tend to squad with people your lvl.. when i'm in a squad with alot of you it is to help you.. never to help me... where are the offers to come help us "high lvl" players?? I'm sorry if you ask for help and i am busy and/or just don't feel like helping... incase you never noticed i'm getting quite frustrated with the slowness of the game for me at my lvl lately so all i want to do is try to advance myself... i'm sorrry but running around killing bosses for people gets me nothing, especially when their FBs come up and others jump in and STEAL them.. if you can't wait for me to be not busy to help you with your FB rather than just grabbing other players then why the hell should i help you with bosses and such?
TTs? I'm not helping anyone anymore.. where are all the TT60 mats that used to be in the bank? i know mysti, ebu, knight and I had farmed over 30++ of each when we were in our 60s and 70s and they have been consumed since.. where the hell are the replacements? what happened to helping others get their 60's? as you've heard again and again, we never had higher lvl help so please do not assume that it is your right to get your gear the second you hit the lvl req (or earlier).. if so that is a PRIVILEGE.. don't get demanding about gear you NEED 7 lvls before you can even open the door yourself to go and get them!
ok, sorry rants are disorganized but i gotta run.. :S /... may edit later, prob will not.....
to anyone i piss off, deal with it... | |
| | | Reni Admin
Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-01-28 Age : 49 Location : Missouri
| Subject: Re: Complaints Fri 27 Mar 2009, 2:25 pm | |
| I will say this again SAY WHAT YOU WANT HERE... You will not get booted from faction for saying it unless your planning on telling me to go fuck myself or something. I think Vent should be more active and everyone should talk more and be more social with each other. I am trying to keep my private life out of game... So yes I hide in another channel a lot. People have formed into groups and tend to stick with those. If anyone has ideas how to get people to work together , help and socialize please say something. We are all part of the same Guild. I hope we all have same goals for the Guild. 1.Have FUN 2.Make some new Friends. 3. Eventually do TW's I agree when recruit someone should talk to them a bit find out a bit about them. I think we need to up the lvl req to 40+ I will start kicking those under 40 who are inactive. TT's 1. if you get a squad together to farm mats for yourself. I do not expect anyone to donate mats to guild from that run. But it is the person who wants the Mats responsibility to compensate those who go. whether it be split mats or sell and split money. 2. I would like to see the level 60-70 people farming some guild runs to help replenish the mats used making your TT weapons. Like Peet said we farmed most lvl 60 TT weapons and mats yes there were others that helped and it was much appreciated. I would like to be able to get people their 60TT weapon when they turn 60. 3. Guild runs for TT mats all mats are gathered and collected by one person and what cannot be used for a weapon is sold and money put in guild bank for TW Ok well that is all I really have to say for now... Never know I hope we can all get along and have fun... after all it is a game and thats what we are here for MystiBabe Guild Leader8x Archer | |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Fri 17 Apr 2009, 8:51 pm | |
| I'm new so I made it a point to look at the complaints section to know what I'm "in for" First back to the first post. 1. This one should go for ALL FBs run no question not just for guildies. The xp and rep helps out higher lvls sooo much so why not return the favor. 2. Agreed, Lets make a boss day a lot of other faction have this and works great. Unless the higher ups are feeling generous wait until the boss day (whatever day it could be) and put in your request. maybe a seperate forum should be made about putting request for the day so we know what needs to get done. 3. Again agreed. Trust me if you run an FB with me you will quickly see that my hp and mp charm is getting a work out the whole time on everything but the bosses. Its not unusual for me to Leroy my way through the FB. Of course this is my fault but its my little tribute to the clerics and barbs who do use charms more often than most by giving a nice quick run and more than likely some good laughs watching me die too. 4. Don't let Jadey see you wrote this one xD lol Venos do have an easier time making money than some. But all classes if played right can be just as productive if your smart. and agian all should be willing to help out factionmates, we all got help at some point lets return the favor to the lower lvls . 5. Back to the boss day idea. 6. This one is for sure. just because you hit lvl 60, 70, 80 or 90 doesnt mean you are not good if you dont have a TT weap. Look at my bow now 3* lvl 82 bow and it only deals 150dmg less than the lvl 80 TT gold bow and it only cost me 400k to get all the mats to build it rather than the 6mil+ for the other bow. and another not I have never owned a single piece of TT armor and wont until Im 90+, trust me this doesnt make me squisher by much. 7. Again very good! TT runs for peoples gears make the guild stronger! sure you use there charm and it kinda sucks not getting anything. but unless you soloed all the TTs for yourself at one point someone did somethign to help you get your gear so pass on the favor. 8. Boss help days ^^ and FB invites in return Also I see a lot of talk about "Cliques" no matter what group you join they will form and being a lvl based game it usually gets divided up by lvls. Easiest way to solve this is to include faction wide events like "find the fat high lvl panda" (lol), World bosses are always fun for a large group too Im sure the higher lvls will go solo on these every now and then but it might not be bad to do a faction day where the drops are sold and put into faction bank. Other event ideas I have seen are races (checkpoints across the map no teleing), a faction wide lotto, dueling contests (brackets of every 5 or 10 lvls), and *cough* boss days *cough* lol I saw a comment about not letting new member get vent info and website logins. Sounds like a good idea but honestly being a new member one of the first things I look for is a strong community. If i wasn't introduced to vent and website I would have not had nearly as good of time or felt nearly as at home here. So far the last days have been the most fun I have had in PW in a long time. Personally I love the fact that in all reality I am aloud to do what I want when I want, pk who I feel like (as I have been told many times including in faction >.>). 3 things that will irritate me if I they ever happen. 1. I get called a noob or told that I suck seriously because I aggro boss, pull too many mobs or anything like that. (not to sound cocky but...) I have played this game for sometime and know what I am doing chances are if I do anything "wrong" I did it on purpose because I'm bored or want to see the true limits of the group and skill lvl (honesty who likes doing the same boring thing over and over, excitement is a good thing and livens up this game, dont you feel better if you take on 3 elite mobs and challenge yourself or do you enjoy doing one at a time with no challenge and more or less afk attacking) or the other option is that it was a genuine mistake (if it is you will know cause I will be apologizing non stop). Calling me a noob and being serious about it will 9/10 times get you on my own personal kos list and I will enjoy killing you to remind you how much of a noob I really am. 2. GREED! If you are greedy I will not give you invites to any FBs, party with you or hardly even talk to you. I understand asking for help and financial backing I have been there and have taken "loans" from people. I do not consider this greed. But if you do all this without ever helping (not necessarily me being my lvl will not allow some people to help me) and continuously leech off other people don't ever expect much out of me. 3. Finally. people who take this game to serious, its a game. I play it a ton and do not enjoy dying. But in the rare ocation I do I never curse out anyone or point figures in fact I will usually laugh at the situation and honestly the death animation in this game makes me laugh. Best thing I ever saw was yesterday with 15+ dead bodies all in line from the drudge (WB near arrowhead) I some how dodge his attacks ninja style once he came after me after Mysti. I got luck most others didnt, made me laugh hysterically, and even if I died I would have to. Deaths in the game are no big deal just means you get to challenge yourself again (looks to PEET and Mysti up for Drudge again xD). Crying when dying is lame, this goes especially for PvPing never get mad when you die it really only makes you look bad. Again glad to be with all of you. Feel free to ask for help or tips on the game i will be more than happy to point you in the right direction. |
| | | PEET
Posts : 34 Join date : 2009-01-30 Age : 41 Location : Nova Scotia
| Subject: Re: Complaints Sun 19 Apr 2009, 10:21 am | |
| - Mastrmustard wrote:
- ... faction wide events like "find the fat high lvl panda" (lol),
HEY! I RESENT THAT!! LOL - Mastrmustard wrote:
- World bosses are always fun for a large group too
But make sure that Musty has a new MP charm on whenever you go after a manna burn WB like Spearman... Makes it more fun for the whole group | |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Sun 19 Apr 2009, 10:43 am | |
| O I'm sry Peet I meant to say "big boned" and NOOOOO!!! I'm still crying about that charm!! |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Mon 27 Apr 2009, 4:06 pm | |
| sry to say, but I really do HATE signup sheets for bosses -.- I'm a stronger veno with a good tank and a DD pet, so if you ever need a boss or any other help, just pull my sleeve and ask for it! I'll be happy to help if and when I can. I don't care about burning MP/HP charms, that's what they're there for. When I run out, I'll just stock up again. And I always carry angels, so no worries there either. =)
only "rant" I have is that even though we try to, the faction doesn't really seem to grow (fast enough) and I really really really want to do TW *,..,*
in short: I Love You Guys And Gals <333 =) |
| | | Reni Admin
Posts : 35 Join date : 2009-01-28 Age : 49 Location : Missouri
| Subject: Re: Complaints Mon 27 Apr 2009, 7:00 pm | |
| I want to do TW so only rant is people need to lvl up and be active... also like people to recruit more | |
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| Subject: Re: Complaints Tue 28 Apr 2009, 1:10 pm | |
| because of my lack of knowing people i dont recruit but if someone else would like to recruit they can have my executer position. =) i dont mind |
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